Real shoes fit our 4 year old. I ordered 10 wide. Belts are a different story. I bought them a year ago in a size too long and they were ok except the velcro straps were a bit short and the velcro strap itself wore out pretty quickly and lagged behind the shoes. As you can see I sewed on new white velcro straps for the straps to be used. Now I just sewed on another white velcro to make the strap even longer because now that they fit the original velcro position is too short. Our little guy isn't strict about shoes. it was too expensive to buckle up the jury. They should be about 2 inches longer with much better quality baits. His feet are a little wide, but not uncommon.
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